1 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:04,579 I want to talk about the same project 2 00:00:09,950 --> 00:00:07,919 global consciousness project I've talked 3 00:00:13,009 --> 00:00:09,960 about before here a number of times but 4 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:13,019 very quickly go through the beginnings 5 00:00:21,410 --> 00:00:16,560 of and the description of the project 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:21,420 and then worked toward something like 7 00:00:26,839 --> 00:00:24,330 modeling and theory even though I'm not 8 00:00:28,060 --> 00:00:26,849 a theorist I do think about those things 9 00:00:31,519 --> 00:00:28,070 quite a bit 10 00:00:33,170 --> 00:00:31,529 this is a picture of the gathering in 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:33,180 New York I think there were about half a 12 00:00:40,610 --> 00:00:35,730 million people last September on Earth 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:40,620 Day with a focus on the climate changes 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:45,930 and so forth and I thought this is a 15 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:47,489 kind of advance that we call a global 16 00:00:55,119 --> 00:00:50,610 event could we possibly capture a 17 00:00:59,689 --> 00:00:55,129 picture somehow of this the intense 18 00:01:03,500 --> 00:00:59,699 emotion and interest and shared ideas of 19 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:03,510 this gathering in New York that's a 20 00:01:11,929 --> 00:01:08,310 picture of data which ought to run on a 21 00:01:17,420 --> 00:01:11,939 kind of level whoops halves at fingers 22 00:01:19,399 --> 00:01:17,430 like everybody else anyway 23 00:01:23,530 --> 00:01:19,409 the data should run level but they 24 00:01:27,289 --> 00:01:23,540 actually are way out of line so to speak 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:27,299 so I'm thinking to what we're trying to 26 00:01:33,410 --> 00:01:29,610 do is build a science that can actually 27 00:01:36,109 --> 00:01:33,420 allow us to capture some aspect of human 28 00:01:40,609 --> 00:01:36,119 consciousness in a way that we might 29 00:01:43,130 --> 00:01:40,619 even call quantitative we began thinking 30 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:43,140 about these things at least I did in the 31 00:01:47,510 --> 00:01:45,420 pair lab with experiment where people 32 00:01:53,060 --> 00:01:47,520 tried to change the behavior of a 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:53,070 machine with intention no wires no 34 00:01:59,300 --> 00:01:56,130 buttons we found a significant effect 35 00:02:02,480 --> 00:01:59,310 when we asked people to get high numbers 36 00:02:04,999 --> 00:02:02,490 versus low numbers so they produce 37 00:02:07,300 --> 00:02:05,009 something that would wind up being 38 00:02:10,249 --> 00:02:07,310 rather far in the high direction 39 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:10,259 relative to what was expected similarly 40 00:02:14,750 --> 00:02:11,860 for the low numbers 41 00:02:19,740 --> 00:02:14,760 pretty successful highly significant 42 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:19,750 differences the next step in the 43 00:02:23,460 --> 00:02:21,190 progression toward something like 44 00:02:26,090 --> 00:02:23,470 gathering information about global 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:26,100 consciousness was to go outside the lab 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:29,530 and to do what we called field rake or 47 00:02:35,310 --> 00:02:33,010 appealed our AG experiments we by this 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:35,320 time benefited from a miniaturization of 49 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:38,850 electronics to the point where you could 50 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:42,910 put a random number generator on a 51 00:02:49,020 --> 00:02:46,150 palmtop computer or laptop and easily 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:49,030 carry it wherever we wanted to go the 53 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:51,130 software would record the data 54 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:53,980 continuously and then you could press a 55 00:02:59,070 --> 00:02:56,650 button to mark the beginning and the end 56 00:03:01,860 --> 00:02:59,080 of an interesting period of time and 57 00:03:05,420 --> 00:03:01,870 here are a couple of examples and on the 58 00:03:09,990 --> 00:03:05,430 Left we have a visit with a small group 59 00:03:12,870 --> 00:03:10,000 to Devil's Tower accompanied by a Native 60 00:03:14,850 --> 00:03:12,880 American shaman the Shoshone whose 61 00:03:17,090 --> 00:03:14,860 personal mission was to heal these 62 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:17,100 sacred sites that have been kind of 63 00:03:22,229 --> 00:03:19,510 desecrated in some sense by careless 64 00:03:23,789 --> 00:03:22,239 thoughtless people he didn't understand 65 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:23,799 what we were doing but when I showed him 66 00:03:29,610 --> 00:03:25,930 that graph he said I think I get the 67 00:03:31,770 --> 00:03:29,620 idea because he could see that data line 68 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:31,780 wasn't going down the middle it was off 69 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:36,130 the scale and went to Egypt with a group 70 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:39,880 of 19 people who were pretty very much 71 00:03:45,539 --> 00:03:42,209 interested in the ancient religion and 72 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:45,549 spiritual tradition and so forth and we 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:47,680 went to all of the temples we could the 74 00:03:53,550 --> 00:03:50,170 ruins and we also went into the Great 75 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:53,560 Pyramid and this figure shows in the 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:03:56,530 first segment our group entering the 77 00:04:02,250 --> 00:04:00,610 pyramid and if you look at the trend 78 00:04:05,070 --> 00:04:02,260 there there isn't a trend that's just 79 00:04:07,069 --> 00:04:05,080 level not interesting yet but the next 80 00:04:11,569 --> 00:04:07,079 segment has us in the Queen's Chamber 81 00:04:14,550 --> 00:04:11,579 doing meditations and chanting and 82 00:04:17,069 --> 00:04:14,560 following that the Grand Gallery which 83 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:17,079 is a fantastic place if you have a 84 00:04:21,300 --> 00:04:18,790 chance to be in Egypt 85 00:04:24,780 --> 00:04:21,310 and visit the interior of the Great 86 00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:24,790 Pyramid I'd say check that out it's my 87 00:04:29,090 --> 00:04:26,920 favorite place that led to the King's 88 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:29,100 Chamber where we did a couple of long 89 00:04:34,110 --> 00:04:31,420 meditations in these two segments here 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:34,120 and then this last part is everybody's 91 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:36,490 splitting up no longer a group no longer 92 00:04:43,770 --> 00:04:39,850 working together in any case we think 93 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:43,780 that the field re G protocol showed us 94 00:04:48,270 --> 00:04:45,880 lots of evidence that group 95 00:04:51,090 --> 00:04:48,280 consciousness it is a kind of natural 96 00:04:53,190 --> 00:04:51,100 thing normally we don't really notice it 97 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:53,200 because when you're in it you can't 98 00:04:58,950 --> 00:04:55,570 really be observing it very well some 99 00:05:03,300 --> 00:04:58,960 examples we think about group residence 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:03,310 afterwards and we call a great meeting 101 00:05:09,180 --> 00:05:06,610 or an engaging talk that but only 102 00:05:12,060 --> 00:05:09,190 afterwards during the event we're 103 00:05:14,430 --> 00:05:12,070 engaged so those are a variety of 104 00:05:17,790 --> 00:05:14,440 experiment experiences that we could 105 00:05:19,740 --> 00:05:17,800 think of as group consciousness the next 106 00:05:24,420 --> 00:05:19,750 step toward the global consciousness 107 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:24,430 project is to consider what we learn 108 00:05:30,660 --> 00:05:28,690 from 12 years of intention experiments 109 00:05:34,260 --> 00:05:30,670 and another several years of field 110 00:05:35,940 --> 00:05:34,270 experiments leading to lots of other 111 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:35,950 kinds of questions what if you have two 112 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:39,250 or more random number generators what if 113 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:41,050 they're further away what if they're 114 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:45,310 remotely located so we build a network 115 00:05:51,090 --> 00:05:48,130 to answer a question like this could we 116 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:51,100 possibly capture something that you 117 00:05:55,470 --> 00:05:52,510 could think of as global consciousness 118 00:05:57,690 --> 00:05:55,480 using the same technology that's what we 119 00:06:01,110 --> 00:05:57,700 tried to do first with some prototypes 120 00:06:06,950 --> 00:06:01,120 this is the data from Princess Diana's 121 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:11,460 pseudo-random traces it's not off the 122 00:06:18,750 --> 00:06:15,780 scale hugely but it's very was very 123 00:06:23,090 --> 00:06:18,760 encouraging so we proceeded to build a 124 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:23,100 network that was intended to take data 125 00:06:29,850 --> 00:06:27,610 every second every day over years and in 126 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:29,860 fact we've now been running this network 127 00:06:32,229 --> 00:06:30,409 which 128 00:06:38,589 --> 00:06:32,239 as a kind of instrument for looking at 129 00:06:40,329 --> 00:06:38,599 global consciousness for 1517 years if 130 00:06:46,389 --> 00:06:40,339 you want to get more detailed by the way 131 00:06:54,269 --> 00:06:46,399 the the best fastest address is global - 132 00:06:57,639 --> 00:06:54,279 mind org this our basic hypothesis is a 133 00:06:59,829 --> 00:06:57,649 overarching hypothesis is a kind of 134 00:07:01,089 --> 00:06:59,839 operational definition of what we're 135 00:07:02,859 --> 00:07:01,099 talking about when I say global 136 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:02,869 consciousness who knows if there really 137 00:07:11,139 --> 00:07:06,289 is such a thing but what we are trying 138 00:07:14,499 --> 00:07:11,149 to do is repeatedly ask a question that 139 00:07:16,829 --> 00:07:14,509 will allow us altima to say yea or nay 140 00:07:19,629 --> 00:07:16,839 about an idea like this eventually 141 00:07:22,449 --> 00:07:19,639 attention and emotion shared by people 142 00:07:25,869 --> 00:07:22,459 all around the world will correlate with 143 00:07:28,979 --> 00:07:25,879 changes in our data from this network of 144 00:07:33,309 --> 00:07:28,989 random number generators and what we do 145 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:33,319 to test this is individual experiments 146 00:07:39,429 --> 00:07:36,050 that are each very specific their 147 00:07:41,049 --> 00:07:39,439 beginning is identified the end is 148 00:07:45,269 --> 00:07:41,059 identified of a period of time during 149 00:07:48,459 --> 00:07:45,279 which we're going to test the data and 150 00:07:50,919 --> 00:07:48,469 what what we know from the statistics is 151 00:07:53,859 --> 00:07:50,929 that this the result should be if we 152 00:07:56,109 --> 00:07:53,869 picture it ran the walk but it very 153 00:07:59,379 --> 00:07:56,119 often is not a random walk the random 154 00:08:01,779 --> 00:07:59,389 walk would have a horizontal trend this 155 00:08:03,669 --> 00:08:01,789 is a good example I'll show you some bad 156 00:08:08,290 --> 00:08:03,679 examples to where we don't we don't 157 00:08:10,899 --> 00:08:08,300 always win about 70% of the time however 158 00:08:12,909 --> 00:08:10,909 we win in the sense that the data go in 159 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:12,919 the direction we predict which is upward 160 00:08:19,059 --> 00:08:16,969 and this kind of graph and about 20% at 161 00:08:21,759 --> 00:08:19,069 a time or a little bit less than that 162 00:08:24,029 --> 00:08:21,769 it may be statistically significant by 163 00:08:30,659 --> 00:08:24,039 the normal 5% criterion 164 00:08:33,790 --> 00:08:30,669 so we've now collected nearly 500 events 165 00:08:37,449 --> 00:08:33,800 looking at disasters of various kind 166 00:08:39,730 --> 00:08:37,459 natural and human-caused acts of war and 167 00:08:41,009 --> 00:08:39,740 but also celebrations pleasant kinds of 168 00:08:45,370 --> 00:08:41,019 events 169 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:45,380 here's a example of that everybody has 170 00:08:51,250 --> 00:08:47,810 probably seen if you've seen any of my 171 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:51,260 talk but it was definitely an example of 172 00:09:02,590 --> 00:08:57,920 the world gathering around an event and 173 00:09:05,620 --> 00:09:02,600 peeling deep strong shared emotion again 174 00:09:08,980 --> 00:09:05,630 by now you know the data should be 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:08,990 running level but for about two days the 176 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:10,970 data were definitely not running the way 177 00:09:15,460 --> 00:09:13,970 random data should we looked at this in 178 00:09:17,939 --> 00:09:15,470 a variety of different ways there's a 179 00:09:21,069 --> 00:09:17,949 different kind of analysis that look 180 00:09:23,199 --> 00:09:21,079 instead of at what you might think of as 181 00:09:27,850 --> 00:09:23,209 a mean shift this is a variance change 182 00:09:30,819 --> 00:09:27,860 and it also spikes hugely around on that 183 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:30,829 day unfortunately there are lots and 184 00:09:39,879 --> 00:09:36,250 lots of examples of terrorists or 185 00:09:42,490 --> 00:09:39,889 human-caused disasters I'll just run 186 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:42,500 through a bunch of them there are some 187 00:09:46,329 --> 00:09:44,510 that go completely in the opposite 188 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:46,339 direction of what we expect that counts 189 00:09:51,879 --> 00:09:49,850 against our bottom line but it is a 190 00:09:56,620 --> 00:09:51,889 formal event so it is part of the 191 00:10:00,250 --> 00:09:56,630 database and in the long run it turns 192 00:10:03,370 --> 00:10:00,260 out that we have far more of the kind 193 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:03,380 that that match our prediction than 194 00:10:11,410 --> 00:10:07,310 otherwise fortunately there are some 195 00:10:13,210 --> 00:10:11,420 other kinds of things that we can can 196 00:10:16,660 --> 00:10:13,220 look at in the world positive events 197 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:16,670 this one is really to my mind very 198 00:10:23,710 --> 00:10:19,010 interesting when this is the coup Mela 199 00:10:25,420 --> 00:10:23,720 which happens in India there's a two 200 00:10:28,540 --> 00:10:25,430 versions of it 201 00:10:31,150 --> 00:10:28,550 the really large-scale one is every 12 202 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:31,160 years or something like that but there's 203 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:32,990 one every there there are some in 204 00:10:39,790 --> 00:10:35,470 between and we've looked at this now 205 00:10:42,579 --> 00:10:39,800 three times and if you if this 206 00:10:44,530 --> 00:10:42,589 transparency kind of works you can see 207 00:10:46,930 --> 00:10:44,540 that there's so much similarity from one 208 00:10:49,319 --> 00:10:46,940 to another that we could say maybe that 209 00:10:52,289 --> 00:10:49,329 is the result of 20 million people 210 00:10:54,780 --> 00:10:52,299 together to do something they really 211 00:10:56,549 --> 00:10:54,790 feel is important we also look at new 212 00:10:59,879 --> 00:10:56,559 years every year and we look at a couple 213 00:11:03,629 --> 00:10:59,889 different ways one of them is by looking 214 00:11:05,970 --> 00:11:03,639 at the variance of all of our data at 215 00:11:07,979 --> 00:11:05,980 which we predict will drop down while 216 00:11:12,749 --> 00:11:07,989 people are beginning to focus on 217 00:11:15,090 --> 00:11:12,759 midnight and that we use a signal 218 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:15,100 averaging to look at all the timezone 219 00:11:19,919 --> 00:11:17,410 and so forth and this is a selected 220 00:11:22,439 --> 00:11:19,929 example that is like a kind of perfect 221 00:11:24,389 --> 00:11:22,449 demonstration of how the data should 222 00:11:26,249 --> 00:11:24,399 look when it confirms our hypothesis 223 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:26,259 there are some years where it doesn't do 224 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:29,529 that but overall this analysis shows a 225 00:11:38,249 --> 00:11:33,850 significant deviation one year after 226 00:11:41,059 --> 00:11:38,259 another we also have lots of organized 227 00:11:43,590 --> 00:11:41,069 things in the world most of you either 228 00:11:46,710 --> 00:11:43,600 have a tender or at least know about 229 00:11:48,389 --> 00:11:46,720 some kind of event you could go to like 230 00:11:50,789 --> 00:11:48,399 that piece 231 00:11:53,429 --> 00:11:50,799 climate change gathering in New York 232 00:11:57,629 --> 00:11:53,439 that I showed as a first slide we do 233 00:12:01,769 --> 00:11:57,639 this every year in September September 234 00:12:05,340 --> 00:12:01,779 21st this is a good example of data that 235 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:05,350 don't confirm the hypothesis but most of 236 00:12:10,949 --> 00:12:08,079 the examples do confirm that hypothesis 237 00:12:16,530 --> 00:12:10,959 this is year after year of the 238 00:12:22,309 --> 00:12:16,540 International Day of Peace one of my 239 00:12:25,409 --> 00:12:22,319 colleagues decided to put together a 240 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:25,419 compilation of all the events that have 241 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:29,110 people either meditating or praying or 242 00:12:34,859 --> 00:12:31,839 marching for something like a brighter 243 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:34,869 future and he called it a global harmony 244 00:12:40,889 --> 00:12:37,689 and this is a picture of something like 245 00:12:43,590 --> 00:12:40,899 a hundred events selected from the 246 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:43,600 database all of which sort of matched 247 00:12:50,090 --> 00:12:46,689 this idea that we should and a lot of 248 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:50,100 people do work toward a global harmony 249 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:52,569 name is Brian Williams he I think he's a 250 00:12:58,680 --> 00:12:54,850 member of ss he and hope you might be 251 00:13:05,110 --> 00:13:02,290 so the bottom line of the data from this 252 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:05,120 experiment is can be shown in a scatter 253 00:13:10,990 --> 00:13:08,570 plot this might not look very impressive 254 00:13:14,170 --> 00:13:11,000 but there is a small difference between 255 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:14,180 the expected dotted dark line black line 256 00:13:20,170 --> 00:13:18,050 and this blue line which is the average 257 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:20,180 of all of the events that we've looked 258 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:22,730 at so far it's only one-third of a 259 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:25,210 standard deviation away from the 260 00:13:32,290 --> 00:13:27,860 predicted or expected value for random 261 00:13:36,450 --> 00:13:32,300 data but because there are 491 events 262 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:36,460 that the composite across all of those 263 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:41,330 those individual samples has a z score 264 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:44,810 of seven that's seven sigma effect so 265 00:13:49,630 --> 00:13:47,690 it's non-trivial this is exactly the 266 00:13:53,260 --> 00:13:49,640 same data presented and the format I've 267 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:53,270 used for the individual event here you 268 00:14:00,460 --> 00:13:57,610 can see there are up zag zig zags but 269 00:14:03,210 --> 00:14:00,470 the trend because of the preponderance 270 00:14:07,270 --> 00:14:03,220 of data that go in the direction we're 271 00:14:09,370 --> 00:14:07,280 expecting or predicting it will produces 272 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:09,380 a line that just goes further and 273 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:12,770 further away from what's expected the 274 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:17,930 horizontal trend and this is a way of 275 00:14:23,260 --> 00:14:21,170 showing how we do controls you can 276 00:14:24,730 --> 00:14:23,270 sample all of the data which are not in 277 00:14:26,170 --> 00:14:24,740 the events that's about ninety-eight 278 00:14:29,500 --> 00:14:26,180 percent of the data or you can do 279 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:29,510 something like just a computer 280 00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:34,810 simulation of what we can think of as 281 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:38,750 pseudo series and that produces a cloud 282 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:41,360 of data like in this gray these gray 283 00:14:46,090 --> 00:14:43,730 lines and again you can see easily see 284 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:46,100 that the real data are very different 285 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:51,920 from from what's in that picture so what 286 00:14:55,630 --> 00:14:53,810 kinds of things are important I'll talk 287 00:14:58,950 --> 00:14:55,640 a little bit about that and then move on 288 00:15:03,340 --> 00:14:58,960 to how it might work mass consciousness 289 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:03,350 seems to be part of the picture 290 00:15:07,759 --> 00:15:05,870 we need to we're looking for powerful 291 00:15:10,639 --> 00:15:07,769 emotions but shared 292 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:10,649 and I think it's important and this will 293 00:15:16,609 --> 00:15:14,610 become obvious later when we're talking 294 00:15:19,210 --> 00:15:16,619 about how it might be working the 295 00:15:23,210 --> 00:15:19,220 experimenter has to be willing to accept 296 00:15:26,030 --> 00:15:23,220 the data as they come and we know from 297 00:15:30,139 --> 00:15:26,040 analysis that events that have really 298 00:15:35,090 --> 00:15:30,149 large numbers of people engaged produce 299 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:35,100 bigger effects than small event yeah an 300 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:37,049 interesting one that lots of people are 301 00:15:41,419 --> 00:15:39,809 interested to check out is the question 302 00:15:44,470 --> 00:15:41,429 whether a positive event will have a 303 00:15:47,689 --> 00:15:44,480 stronger effect than a negative event is 304 00:15:50,780 --> 00:15:47,699 new years better than a terrorist attack 305 00:15:52,369 --> 00:15:50,790 the answer is that at best you know we 306 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:52,379 can do this kind of thing by 307 00:15:58,189 --> 00:15:55,170 categorizing they're pretty much similar 308 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,199 either one as long as it gathers us all 309 00:16:03,889 --> 00:16:01,199 together will produce about the same 310 00:16:05,689 --> 00:16:03,899 kind of effect it does need to be 311 00:16:09,229 --> 00:16:05,699 generally speaking something like 312 00:16:12,739 --> 00:16:09,239 intense or unique shocking surprising 313 00:16:15,319 --> 00:16:12,749 arresting or deeply moving so what we're 314 00:16:17,869 --> 00:16:15,329 talking about is emotions but shared 315 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:17,879 emotions and it turns out I'll show you 316 00:16:24,049 --> 00:16:21,290 a picture of this being awake and aware 317 00:16:25,249 --> 00:16:24,059 allows us to contribute to what we're 318 00:16:28,189 --> 00:16:25,259 thinking of as a kind of global 319 00:16:32,749 --> 00:16:28,199 consciousness but more than when we're 320 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:32,759 asleep I'll show you a picture of a 321 00:16:38,119 --> 00:16:35,970 moment analysis by Peter Ben self who I 322 00:16:42,579 --> 00:16:38,129 think has talked about and definitely 323 00:16:45,230 --> 00:16:42,589 has published an article or two in JSE 324 00:16:48,769 --> 00:16:45,240 categorizing the many events that we 325 00:16:50,269 --> 00:16:48,779 have we can ask things like this 326 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:50,279 question about the numbers of people 327 00:16:56,059 --> 00:16:53,910 involved if we do just large and small 328 00:16:58,369 --> 00:16:56,069 the difference is actually significant 329 00:17:01,100 --> 00:16:58,379 but there is a tendency for larger 330 00:17:04,990 --> 00:17:01,110 events to be better we can categorize 331 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:05,000 events by almost any standard one that I 332 00:17:11,269 --> 00:17:08,569 have done is separate emotions like fear 333 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:11,279 love compassion and so forth how much 334 00:17:17,659 --> 00:17:14,490 does the event show or embody compassion 335 00:17:18,930 --> 00:17:17,669 turns out that if the events that do 336 00:17:26,370 --> 00:17:18,940 that 337 00:17:30,630 --> 00:17:26,380 just about here's the figure I've been 338 00:17:35,370 --> 00:17:30,640 advertising the blue line that we waves 339 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:35,380 up and down is data from the events data 340 00:17:45,270 --> 00:17:39,610 collected during the event over and 341 00:17:48,510 --> 00:17:45,280 there's two cycles of 24 hours so over 342 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:48,520 here where that where the effect size is 343 00:17:53,340 --> 00:17:50,170 smallest is in the middle of the night 344 00:17:56,550 --> 00:17:53,350 about 3:00 in the morning this is 6:00 345 00:18:00,780 --> 00:17:56,560 p.m. I guess everybody is like getting 346 00:18:02,250 --> 00:18:00,790 ready to eat or something okay and down 347 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:02,260 below is a kind of what you might think 348 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:05,610 of as the the rest of the picture that's 349 00:18:12,780 --> 00:18:09,130 when we're there are none no events it's 350 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:12,790 just what the data look like normally so 351 00:18:18,120 --> 00:18:15,610 we are contributing to whatever's going 352 00:18:24,420 --> 00:18:18,130 on in these data when were awake much 353 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:24,430 more stronger than when we're asleep a 354 00:18:29,010 --> 00:18:26,770 long perspective if we look at all the 355 00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:29,020 data not just the ones in the events we 356 00:18:37,170 --> 00:18:34,990 have a figure that some some somebody 357 00:18:41,580 --> 00:18:37,180 contacted me said I was looking for 358 00:18:44,490 --> 00:18:41,590 something that was familiar had a 359 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:44,500 familiar form to the graph that you call 360 00:18:54,810 --> 00:18:51,130 your long long term picture 361 00:19:00,720 --> 00:18:54,820 you said the dollar index seems to track 362 00:19:06,540 --> 00:19:00,730 that pretty well so we I did the graphs 363 00:19:07,710 --> 00:19:06,550 and or he did and it turns out that I 364 00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:07,720 guess you can't see it for some reason 365 00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:11,470 on this figure but it continues up to 366 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:14,440 now I should note that presidential 367 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:16,450 approval ratings track about the same 368 00:19:22,170 --> 00:19:18,700 way so this is just correlation not 369 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:22,180 causation so a couple of different kinds 370 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:24,970 of models seem to be 371 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:28,250 most likely or at least lots of people 372 00:19:34,659 --> 00:19:31,010 propose them one of them is that this is 373 00:19:36,669 --> 00:19:34,669 an old experimenter effect and it's I 374 00:19:38,409 --> 00:19:36,679 try to be agnostic about it but it seems 375 00:19:42,159 --> 00:19:38,419 to me to be very unlikely I'm 376 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:42,169 responsible for all the big rather large 377 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:44,450 changes in data in a network that 378 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:48,710 expands or covers the whole world there 379 00:19:55,890 --> 00:19:50,590 some of the arguments are though like 380 00:20:01,539 --> 00:19:55,900 Helmut Schmidt said well a more familiar 381 00:20:03,220 --> 00:20:01,549 idea is feedback from the future it may 382 00:20:06,490 --> 00:20:03,230 said my prediction Roger Nelson 383 00:20:08,409 --> 00:20:06,500 predictions are better than the other 384 00:20:10,030 --> 00:20:08,419 people make predictions and it turns 385 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:10,040 they are but it's not a significant 386 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:11,110 difference 387 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:15,110 Peter been cell says there can't be any 388 00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:17,330 side without intention because we have 389 00:20:22,570 --> 00:20:20,150 an XOR I don't have time to go into the 390 00:20:23,950 --> 00:20:22,580 details but I think that there's a 391 00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:23,960 problem in that kind of reasoning 392 00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:27,110 because we there may be something going 393 00:20:34,530 --> 00:20:30,260 on there's not just bits 394 00:20:40,980 --> 00:20:34,540 moving on to and the another kind of 395 00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:40,990 possible source we have evidence that 396 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:45,440 there can be something like PK happening 397 00:20:51,730 --> 00:20:49,730 and the result is correlation of between 398 00:20:54,610 --> 00:20:51,740 these devices which are separated by 399 00:20:57,490 --> 00:20:54,620 thousands of kilometers and we have 400 00:21:03,280 --> 00:20:57,500 about a dozen different parameters that 401 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:03,290 won't fit the the model of the 402 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:05,450 experimenter effect but will fit into a 403 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:08,330 PK model I'm sorry I have run out of 404 00:21:14,409 --> 00:21:11,809 time so I won't be able to talk about 405 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:14,419 this in any kind of detail but I would 406 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:19,370 at it I'm thinking about and more and 407 00:21:23,890 --> 00:21:21,290 more deeply convinced that a model based 408 00:21:26,860 --> 00:21:23,900 on something like David bones implicit 409 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:26,870 order might make some sense that what 410 00:21:33,290 --> 00:21:28,370 we're really talking about is something 411 00:21:36,020 --> 00:21:33,300 like active information 412 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:36,030 that can be actualized if there's a need 413 00:21:42,530 --> 00:21:39,960 for it and experiments which provide a 414 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:42,540 need for the information that could 415 00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:44,460 structure what's happening to say a 416 00:21:53,870 --> 00:21:48,840 random number generator or a system that 417 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:53,880 produces correlations and so it could be 418 00:21:59,050 --> 00:21:56,850 that there's active information then is 419 00:22:02,030 --> 00:21:59,060 actualized because there's a need for it 420 00:22:03,620 --> 00:22:02,040 created by an experimenter so there is 421 00:22:06,950 --> 00:22:03,630 an experimenter effect but I think it's 422 00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:06,960 just in doing the experiment so thank 423 00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:19,830 you in the healing research that I do i 424 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:22,260 I've come to the reasonably similar 425 00:22:26,810 --> 00:22:25,170 conclusion that healing is not something 426 00:22:31,030 --> 00:22:26,820 that happens to just between two people 427 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:31,040 it's rather a response to need yeah I 428 00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:33,930 said I think healing is more a response 429 00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:38,070 to need and so I'm wondering in the 430 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:40,740 spirit of connections that could be all 431 00:22:47,810 --> 00:22:45,870 over the place Roger with regard I want 432 00:22:50,150 --> 00:22:47,820 to ask the question about polarity you 433 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:50,160 talked about sometimes the curves go up 434 00:22:55,550 --> 00:22:52,530 and sometimes the curves go down and my 435 00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:55,560 understanding is that and and please 436 00:23:01,130 --> 00:22:57,000 correct me but my understanding is that 437 00:23:04,340 --> 00:23:01,140 you have a bunch of microscopic 438 00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:04,350 measurements you're making and then you 439 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:07,860 do some kind of manipulation on that to 440 00:23:12,980 --> 00:23:11,490 try to eliminate drift in your 441 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:12,990 instrument and bias and all that kind of 442 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:17,810 stuff so one way to say that is you're 443 00:23:23,330 --> 00:23:21,090 you're making a measurement of many many 444 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:23,340 variables all those bits that are going 445 00:23:27,290 --> 00:23:24,720 to get X or it or whatever you talk 446 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:27,300 about that's a measurement in some high 447 00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:30,690 dimensionality space it 56 448 00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:32,340 dimensionality space or 64 449 00:23:36,470 --> 00:23:33,870 dimensionality space or whatever it is 450 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:36,480 and then you're choosing some direction 451 00:23:40,930 --> 00:23:38,760 in that 64 dimensional space and you're 452 00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:40,940 saying I'm going to call this direction 453 00:23:43,909 --> 00:23:42,480 positive and then the Oh 454 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:43,919 direction is negative or something like 455 00:23:49,659 --> 00:23:46,950 that and so I want to ask you know how 456 00:23:54,370 --> 00:23:49,669 do you choose that orientation of your 457 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:54,380 of your vector in that hilbert space and 458 00:24:02,480 --> 00:23:58,290 does that affect what the positive or 459 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:02,490 negative means in your result I chose 460 00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:05,730 the directions for the predictions in a 461 00:24:09,530 --> 00:24:07,440 kind of three dimensional space in which 462 00:24:12,140 --> 00:24:09,540 we did these field ret experiments for a 463 00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:12,150 long time what we knew was that we 464 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:14,910 weren't there wasn't an intention to 465 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:17,370 push the data in one direction or the 466 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:19,530 other direction so we're asking is is 467 00:24:25,159 --> 00:24:21,840 there an expansion the increase in the 468 00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:25,169 variant and that I plot as a as a an 469 00:24:33,130 --> 00:24:29,460 increasing deviation I trend away from 470 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:33,140 in the positive direction so I don't 471 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:42,360 know about 54 dimensions Thanks I was 472 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:44,970 was hoping to clarify something I didn't 473 00:24:53,419 --> 00:24:50,490 quite understand about the about the way 474 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:53,429 you do local time zones and things like 475 00:25:03,760 --> 00:24:55,650 the analysis of bigger effects when 476 00:25:06,950 --> 00:25:03,770 people are awake so how do you do the 477 00:25:10,130 --> 00:25:06,960 time zone analysis with New Year's Eve 478 00:25:12,049 --> 00:25:10,140 when you're apparently analyzing 479 00:25:13,730 --> 00:25:12,059 something in local time zones but you've 480 00:25:17,539 --> 00:25:13,740 got a network scattered all over the 481 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:17,549 world you should talk with Peter pencil 482 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:20,070 for the details about it but essentially 483 00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:22,770 what it amounts to is looking at the 484 00:25:29,210 --> 00:25:25,980 data which are correlations between 485 00:25:31,250 --> 00:25:29,220 these devices in a time zone while 486 00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:31,260 people are awake and then concatenate 487 00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:35,820 the ones concatenating the corresponding 488 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:37,559 ones in the next time zone when people 489 00:25:46,159 --> 00:25:41,070 are awake does that answer the question 490 00:25:48,289 --> 00:25:46,169 I think so you can't possibly answer 491 00:25:51,500 --> 00:25:48,299 this here but please put all of your 492 00:25:52,460 --> 00:25:51,510 analysis details in on a JSC article 493 00:25:55,610 --> 00:25:52,470 sometime soon 494 00:25:58,490 --> 00:25:55,620 yeah okay 495 00:26:00,440 --> 00:25:58,500 currently it sounds like you're looking 496 00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:00,450 at world events and then backtracking 497 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:02,039 that to the data to find the the 498 00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:03,690 correlation across these different re 499 00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:06,270 G's right is there a way given your 500 00:26:11,870 --> 00:26:08,640 current state with the technology to 501 00:26:14,630 --> 00:26:11,880 regionalize and network the re GS 502 00:26:15,980 --> 00:26:14,640 looking for local regional coherence and 503 00:26:17,330 --> 00:26:15,990 then have some kind of signaling 504 00:26:19,789 --> 00:26:17,340 mechanisms say hey there's a lot of 505 00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:19,799 coherence within you know you know this 506 00:26:24,919 --> 00:26:21,929 particular region and then back that 507 00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:24,929 track that to a concurrent event hmm 508 00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:25,620 does that make sense 509 00:26:31,100 --> 00:26:29,039 well the last I'm not so sure about the 510 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:31,110 last part but the first part yes it is 511 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:34,440 possible I'm hoping that other people 512 00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:36,570 will be interested in in a sense 513 00:26:41,810 --> 00:26:38,429 replicating building a better network 514 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:41,820 with now today this was started so long 515 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:44,700 ago that storing a gigabyte or 10 516 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:47,490 gigabytes was a lot of storage right so 517 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:50,490 we need a lot more detailed information 518 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:51,690 to do the kind of thing that you're 519 00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,330 talking about there needs to be I think 520 00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,580 a fairly a substantial number in each of 521 00:27:02,180 --> 00:26:58,400 the regions you might be interested in 522 00:27:04,360 --> 00:27:02,190 in order to get a you know big sample 523 00:27:08,029 --> 00:27:04,370 where you have lots of correlations that 524 00:27:09,380 --> 00:27:08,039 might or might not occur and I think the 525 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:09,390 last thing you said was something like 526 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:13,890 look for an event and then find look for 527 00:27:18,020 --> 00:27:15,570 a deviation in the data and then look 528 00:27:18,980 --> 00:27:18,030 for the event we can't afford to do that 529 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:18,990 we don't do that 530 00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:21,690 because the world is very complicated so 531 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:23,820 if you find a spike in the data and 532 00:27:27,980 --> 00:27:25,770 start looking around you'll find that's 533 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:27,990 why I meant regionally coordinating so 534 00:27:31,130 --> 00:27:29,370 looking if you had some kind of 535 00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:31,140 mechanism to to sample the different 536 00:27:35,450 --> 00:27:33,840 RTGS in real time and then narrow your 537 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:35,460 regional space so let's say I'm looking 538 00:27:40,190 --> 00:27:37,770 at only re G's in Texas for example and 539 00:27:42,020 --> 00:27:40,200 then looking for a regional event in 540 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:42,030 Texas that you know some having some 541 00:27:44,899 --> 00:27:43,380 kind of signaling mechanism to say 542 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:44,909 there's a lot of coherence you know in 543 00:27:49,940 --> 00:27:47,760 this slice of time is there a concurrent 544 00:27:51,620 --> 00:27:49,950 ongoing event in that region of just 545 00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:51,630 these you know three or four re G's for 546 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:52,830 example that make sense 547 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:55,200 well we actually do have a very 548 00:27:58,940 --> 00:27:57,450 beginning you know like a rough kind of 549 00:28:02,270 --> 00:27:58,950 approximation to that if I'm 550 00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:02,280 understanding it correctly I mentioned 551 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:03,960 small events large events what the 552 00:28:07,270 --> 00:28:05,090 smaller wins really 553 00:28:10,270 --> 00:28:07,280 is something that's regional that 554 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:10,280 somebody really wants to find out if 555 00:28:14,860 --> 00:28:12,890 this event makes an effect on the global 556 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:14,870 network and the analysis that we 557 00:28:20,410 --> 00:28:17,330 formerly do covers the whole network but 558 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:20,420 when you start looking at the effect of 559 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:22,970 the distance separating these re G's you 560 00:28:28,660 --> 00:28:25,880 find that it matters if the event is a 561 00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:28,670 small one what that suggests is that the 562 00:28:34,180 --> 00:28:33,110 effect is local to some degree people in 563 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:34,190 the rest of the world don't know about 564 00:28:39,820 --> 00:28:36,890 it even so the people who do know about 565 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:39,830 it in that region have some effect on 566 00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:42,410 the device so if you set if you now do a 567 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:44,870 correlation with a further separated re 568 00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:47,360 G it will be weaker because there's no